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Jordan Cameron has made some impressive catches this week while displaying impressive athleticism.

West Practice Notes: Day Three

Quarterbacks:

Nathan Enderle, QB, Idaho:

Enderle showed some of the ball placement that I knew he had today, but it was still very inconsistent. He had a few nice throws that I saw, including a nice throw right on the money to Aldrick Robinson deep. He still missed high a couple times to Armon Binns and struggled going through reads at times. I was really high on Enderle before this season, but he regressed this year for whatever reason. He is definitely still draftable, and with his size, arm strength and inconsistent accuracy he should be a 5th or 6th round draft pick. He will need some development and probably some work on his mechanics (footwork probably, he has a nice fluid throwing motion) but I think he will stick in the NFL.

Scott Tolzien, QB, Wisconsin:

Tolzien showed pretty consistent ball placement on day three and pretty solid arm strength. He won’t be able to stretch the field that well, but on short and some intermediate throws he has solid zip on his passes. I think he warrants a 7th round pick or a priority free agent pick-up, and he has done a pretty good job of making decisions this week. I think he can be a developmental #3 in the NFL.

Jerrod Johnson, QB, Texas A&M:

Johnson is probably staring down a position change when he gets to the NFL. He has some mobility and impressive size, but he doesn’t have good zip on his passes, he doesn’t read defenses well, doesn’t make good decisions consistently and struggles with ball placement. I wasn’t sold on him at the beginning of the year after watching him, and it seems that everyone else seems to be of that same opinion now.

Halfbacks:

Patrick DiMarco, FB, South Carolina:

DiMarco stuck out to me all week as a pass catcher and as a runner, and when I talked to Justin Griffith (former Falcons fullback and current halfbacks coach for the West team this week) he said that DiMarco was the guy who stuck out to him the most and that he “did well in pass protection” and “caught the ball well out of the backfield.” I agree with both assertions and I thought it was pretty cool that he was impressed with DiMarco when he had stuck out to me as well. To be fair, Griffith did say that he liked all of his guys, not just DiMarco.

Alex Green, RB, Hawaii:

I’m not sure what Green will run, but he showed more burst and speed than I expected him to show today and he also caught the ball well out of the backfield. I think he warrants late round consideration at this point, but he had a solid week of practice to be sure.

Da’Rel Scott, RB, Maryland:

I’m not sold on Scott. He has dropped some passes out of the backfield this week, though he has caught others, and he doesn’t seem to have very good vision in my opinion. He and Royster had the least impressive weeks as far as running backs go in my opinion. It will be interesting to see how he does in the game, because when he gets into a seam he can really turn it into a long play.

Vai Taua, RB, Nevada:

Previously Taua struggled a bit catching the ball out of the backfield which was a bit surprising, but he looked much better in that aspect today and that was a pleasant thing to see. I personally grade him as the 4th best RB here behind Carter, Cooper and Green right now, but he had a solid day today.

Wide Receivers:

Armon Binns, WR, Cincinnati:

Binns has good hands and probably 4.5 speed but I am not sure he will ever create a lot of separation as a route runner. He is a long strider because of his long legs and I haven’t seen him create a lot of separation when running routes this week. I think he has the ceiling of a reliable #2, perhaps not unlike Michael Jenkins of the Falcons, but with better hands in my opinion. He has deceptive deep speed because of his long strides, but he doesn’t have a lot of quickness/burst into his cuts to create separation as a route runner as a result. He does seem to have good body control, he definitely has good hands and he adjusts well to the ball after it is thrown, but I don’t think he’s much more than a 3rd rounder this year. He’s the second best receiver here only to Toliver in my opinion.

Anthony Parker, WR, Calgary:

Parker was a guy who impressed me the first day and some the second day, but his momentum slowed on the third day. He dropped three passes, the first three drops I had seen from him this week, and did not run his routes with a lot of conviction either. I have seen some of his ability, but right now he seems like a fringe 7th round guy. He doesn’t run great routes, he has solid hands and size but I am not sold on his speed and he hasn’t been overly consistent this week.

Aldrick Robinson, WR, SMU:

I like Robinson. He’s a smaller guy but I think he has potential as a slot receiver. I don’t think he is much more than a 4.5 guy, but he has quickness and some shiftiness, and his route running has progressed some this week and he seems open to coaching. He has good hands too and looks the ball in well. I don’t think he’s much more than a 5th rounder at this point, but I think he can stick on a NFL roster.

Ryan Whalen, WR, Stanford:

I literally didn’t see Whalen drop a pass this week. Maybe I just missed one, but he has very reliable hands. He may not ever be a starter since I’m not sure how fast he will run or how well he can create separation, but as a possession guy, perhaps as a #4 WR, he should have a long NFL career because he just doesn’t drop passes. He’s got very reliable hands.

Tight Ends:

Jordan Cameron, TE, USC:

I have to say that I think it’s really funny that there is a DE from Cal named Cameron Jordan and a TE from USC named Jordan Cameron in the same draft. I don’t know if anyone else on the internet has pointed that out, but it needed to happen at some point. Regardless, Cameron has really impressed this week. He has made some really nice catches, he has stretched the field down the seam and shown good athleticism and leaping ability. I had no idea who he was before this week but I have to say I am really impressed and he has certainly been one of the big winners this week. His stock should be soaring right now from relative anonymity to a potential 3rd-4th round prospect.

Virgil Green, TE, Nevada:

I think Green quietly had a good week. He has made some very nice catches as well, catches on low throws, diving catches, one handed catches and overall just good catches with his hands and not letting them get into his pads. He has shown some ability as a route runner, though I don’t think he has very good speed, but he has impressed me at times as a run blocker which I was happy to see. He isn’t in my top 5 TE’s as far as positional rankings go, but I definitely think he warrants 4th-5th round consideration and could be a solid sleeper with some development and coaching. I definitely like Green.

Offensive Linemen:

Joseph Barksdale, OT, LSU:

I have not been impressed with Barksdale this week. He has good size and arm length for the RT position but he has gotten beaten outside, inside and obviously struggles with speed. He has been able to stop guys like Bruce Miller who can’t get by him because of his long arms, but he is nothing more than a 5th round pick because of his size and arm length in my opinion. He has not been impressive to me this week.

Defensive Linemen:

David Carter, DT, UCLA:

I really like what I have seen from Carter this week. He has good size, arm length, is solid off the ball and has shown good hand usage. He’s gotten into the backfield and has shown signs of dominance in one on one drills. Carter has definitely helped himself this week.

Chris Carter, DE, Fresno State:

Carter had a lot of trouble in coverage this week, not unexpectedly in my opinion, and really could only take away the flats and struggled to react well in space and to close on passes this week. He was moved back to the defensive line for one on one drills and showed some speed off the ball to get the edge. He has some potential as a rotational guy but he is kind of a one trick pony at this point. He has some value but I’m not very impressed with him at this point.

Sorry about the delay on these notes. It’s been a bit of an exhausting week. Hope you enjoy them!

–Tom

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Quarterbacks:

Nathan Enderle, QB, Idaho:

Enderle had a solid day but again struggled with ball placement. He double clutched a bit like he did yesterday, and didn’t come off as overly accurate. He missed Armon Binns twice when he sailed it over his head, and looked uncomfortable in the pocket at times. Struggled to find places to go with the ball, at times because of good coverage and at times he was probably struggling to find the open guy. He has talent worth developing but his ability to place the ball where he wants to has not been there this week.

Halfbacks:

Patrick DiMarco, FB, South Carolina:

DiMarco has shown soft hands this week out of the backfield. I need to see him block this week though I have had a positive impression of him in that aspect. Just need to take some notes on him. I like what I have seen though.

Wide Receivers:

Armon Binns, WR, Cincinnati:

Binns has good size and long arms, seems to have reliable hands as well. He caught a touchdown at the end of a two minute drill. He is a long strider from what I can see and at times he struggles to create separation a bit. He ran a pretty good curl route as far as footwork is concerned but couldn’t create separation against Lindsey. I’m not sure how much burst and quickness he has going in and out of his breaks, which will hurt him as a route runner. I haven’t gotten to see how he does when going over the middle, so hopefully he handles that better this week than Toliver did.

Ryan Whalen, WR, Stanford:

Whalen has not dropped a pass all week that I have seen. If he gets his hand on it he catches it, and he has made some nice grabs. He will catch passes against his body at times, but he also makes nice catches away from his body with his hands. He will sell out for a catch and isn’t afraid of contact. I’m not sure he is any faster than 4.5 in the 40, but he is fundamentally sound and I guarantee he will make a roster.

Anthony Parker, WR, Calgary:

Parker continues to show reliable hands, he hasn’t dropped a ball either that I have seen. He has good size, solid speed and he seems fundamentally sound. He was rounding off some of his breaks a bit today, but he is a draftable player in my opinion. I will be keeping an eye on him all week.

Jeff Maehl, WR, Oregon:

Maehl just looks so skinny to me, but he showed good effort as a run blocker today and has deceptive speed for a guy his size. He has pretty good hands, but dropped a pass over the middle when it seemed like he might have been worried about contact coming. I can’t say it was alligator arms for sure, but it seemed like a possibility.

Aldrick Robinson, WR, Southern Methodist:

Robinson has good hands in my opinion, but he looked like he didn’t have very good top end speed today. I pegged him as about a 4.5 guy, but obviously we will have to wait for the combine to see what he runs (without pads obviously).

Tight Ends:

Jordan Cameron, TE, USC:

Cameron had another good catch today, but I just didn’t have the opportunity to see him blocking much today from the sideline I was on. Cameron seems to have reliable hands however.

Virgil Green, TE, Nevada:

I was pleasantly surprised with what I saw from Green as a blocker today. He has shown pretty soft hands when I have seen him, and he has flashed the ability to drive block in the running game which is something I had not seen him do because I hadn’t watched him play often. I look forward to seeing how he does in this department the rest of the week as well as how well he catches the ball.

Offensive Linemen:

Matthew O’Donnell, OT, Queens (Ontario):

O’Donnell is a huge guy which makes him stick out immediately, but I am not sold on him as a NFL RT. He has pretty slow feet and will have a ton of problems playing with good leverage because of his huge stature. He doesn’t seem to have very good hand usage and ability to sustain blocks either, and has struggled in pass protection thus far in practices in my opinion.

Joseph Barksdale, OT, LSU:

Barksdale has an impressive frame, long arms and he just kind of looks like an offensive tackle. However, he doesn’t have good feet in my opinion and was beaten inside multiple times today. I couldn’t see if it was because he opened his hips up too early, but I think it’s a fair assumption that he was looking for the speed rush and wasn’t ready for the inside rush. I’ve never been a big fan, and though I hear he is a nice guy, I just don’t think he is worth a pick before the 4th or 5th round.

Defensive Linemen:

David Carter, DT, UCLA:

Carter was very disruptive today. He has good size, long arms and showed a nice swim move today. He was disruptive in team drills and looked good in one on one drills when I saw him. He has the perfect size for a 3-4 defense, but has shown the versatility to beat guards inside at tackle. I liked what I saw from him today, and I should have a chance to get an interview with him this week since I talked to him today after practice.

Ryan Winterswyk, DE, Boise State:

Winterswyk is really strong, and uses power moves to get penetration. He has good size, strong arms, hands and has a solid bull rush. He’s tall so he has to work to get leverage, but he doesn’t seem to bend at the waist. He beat Barskdale inside thanks to his strong arms and hand usage in one on ones.

Cheta Ozougwu, DE, Rice:

Ozougwu looks like he has a DE frame. He’s not very tall, but he is pretty filled out. He doesn’t have a lot of edge speed and isn’t very quick off the ball, but he showed some hip flexibility to dip his shoulder to get the edge. He has natural leverage because of his size, and he flashed a spin move to spin off of a block and some solid hand usage to swat away the blocker’s hands when rushing the passer. I don’t think he has a high ceiling as a pass rusher because he isn’t very fast off the ball, but he is a solid player that I think has draftable ability.

Karl Klug, DT, Iowa:

Klug is undersized and doesn’t have very long arms but I still think he is worth a draft pick. He has good hand usage, he uses the swim move well and he gets off blocks despite his shorter arms. He has been disruptive this week and even though he may not be a perfect projection to the next level I think he warrants consideration in the mid-late rounds.

Ted Laurent, DT, Mississippi:

Laurent is a short but squatty player. He showed a solid bull rush and some power. I am going to watch him the rest of the week to see how he holds up against the run, how he is off the ball and what kind of hand usage he has.

Cornerbacks:

Korey Lindsey, CB, Southern Illinois:

I was really impressed with Lindsey today. I don’t think he has much better than 4.5 speed, but he has fluid hips, turns and runs well, looked good in man coverage against Whalen, Parker and Binns. Also looked comfortable in zone coverage and showed good footwork to turn and run, but didn’t do as well when he had to close on plays in front of him. I don’t know how good he will be in man coverage in the NFL, but he looked good against bigger receivers that weren’t as quick, probably because they had comparable speed. I was impressed with him today though and I thought he had a great practice.

Thanks for reading! There will be more to come obviously.

–Tom

Here are my notes on the LSU-Florida game from earlier this season. I took notes on the guys who stuck out to me throughout the game so I may have to go back again later to get a look at some players that I missed. Hopefully you enjoy what I have here though! I hit on a number of pretty well known guys. Enjoy!

Notes on LSU-Florida 2010:

Patrick Peterson

I didn’t see much of Peterson in coverage because of the camera angles and he was rarely tested if ever, so I don’t have a lot of notes on him from a coverage perspective. He’s definitely a freak athlete though and he does a great job as a return man. I look forward to getting to see him more in coverage at a later date.

Marcus Gilbert

Gilbert has great size and gets a pretty good push in the run game because of his size and strength and he does a solid job of getting his pads low enough to get a good shot at winning the leverage battle. However, he has pretty slow feet and it showed when he had to do anything besides drive block (like on a stretch play or if they ran a zone run play) and also when he had to pass block. That’s not to say he got beaten off the edge badly, but he definitely is not going to stick at LT in the NFL. He is going to have to try RT first obviously. His size and foot speed reminds me of Phil Loadholt a bit, but obviously Loadholt is bigger and gets a better push versus the run. Right now I would grade Gilbert as about a 4th round pick.

Mike Pouncey

Pouncey is a nice guard prospect but he just does not have it at center. He is doing much better than he was earlier in the season, but in their first game of the year he had numerous bad snaps and he has improved his shotgun snapping to “average” or “decent” by this point, and that might be an overstatement at times. However, he looks like he will be a quality OG prospect despite all of this. I would grade him as a 2nd rounder at this point since he has had kind of a down year, but he definitely has 1st round talent and it showed last year. He was blocking Drake Nevis one on one often in this game and though Nevis got the better of him at times he also had his share of one on one victories against him. Nevis got pressure going against Pouncey a few times, but if Nevis made a big play or a tackle for loss he was abusing someone else on Florida’s line, not Pouncey. Pouncey looks like he should be a quality guard prospect but I just can’t put that 1st round grade on him right now. He could definitely make himself a lot of money with a good performance at the senior bowl though.

Carl Johnson

Johnson has impressive size and strength and he can get a good push in the run game, but he doesn’t seem very technically sound. He looks like he leans into blocks a lot and might be a bit of a waist bender (this might be an issue with Gilbert as well) but I didn’t pay specific enough attention to check that. He looks like a solid guard prospect at the next level, and I’d grade him as a 4th-5th rounder based off of how much I’ve seen of him so far. He’s solid, but I think he needs some technique work and he doesn’t have very good foot speed.

Drake Nevis #92

Drake Nevis was an absolute beast in this game. He has great quickness off the ball and has impressive hand usage and pass rush moves for a college defensive tackle. He gets off the ball well consistently (sometimes he will be slow off of it, but that happens) and sometimes his initial move will be so good that he will just burst right past the guy trying to block him. But there were times in this game when he just dominated double teams as a pass rusher and he really showed his potential as a big time defensive tackle on a regular basis in this game. He and Pouncey had some interesting battles but I’d say it was about even with Nevis getting penetration against him in the pass game at times but other times Pouncey would neutralize him pretty effectively one on one. Despite his great hand usage I think he still needs technique work because sometimes he will stop moving his feet and he won’t keep driving his legs to continue to get a push, and sometimes he played too high and that helped Pouncey and others neutralize him. He may not be a huge DT, but there were times when he played with effective leverage that he was very difficult to move in the run game. I’m not sure he will ever be able to stand up against a double team from offensive linemen as big as the Gators’ linemen are but he definitely looks like a nice UT prospect in the NFL. I give him a top 15 grade right now because he can just be so incredibly disruptive that I love his potential. The trick will be evaluating his work ethic because if he just coasts on his natural ability once he gets to the NFL his impact will be limited, but if he works at his craft and continues to develop he could be a very good UT in a 4-3.

John Brantley

Brantley had a solid game, he definitely looked better in this game than he did earlier in the season. The most impressive thing that I noticed was how tough this guy is. Not only was he allegedly playing with 4 cracked ribs and an injured thumb (some said it was broken but I don’t know if that is true) but even despite that there were a couple of plays where he knew the pressure was coming but he stood tall in the pocket and delivered a threw even though he knew he was going to get hit, and he did. But he got up and kept playing anyways. That’s just impressive to me. He showed more pocket poise than I thought he had, and he did a better job of going through his progressions than I thought he would, but he still stared down one receiver or one side of the field pretty often and it looked like he was getting his audibles from the sideline (but I thought that about Bradford too, which apparently was wrong). He definitely made some nice throws in this game though. He converted a few very key third down passes on third and medium or third and long and he made a couple nice pre-snap reads where he recognized the blitz and found his hot read right away for a quality completion. Those are encouraging plays for him as a NFL prospect. Not to mention he has a very strong arm and he is pretty accurate from what I can tell. He has a ways to go still, but he has definitely improved since the start of the season which is all you can really ask. I’d be shocked if he left early, so I look forward to seeing how he finishes off the season and how he looks in Florida’s bowl game. Right now, not knowing how his senior year will go, I’d project him as a 4th-5th round pick because he has pretty nice tools as far as size, arm strength, toughness and he has shown enough signs of intelligence that I like to think he’s pretty smart. So if a team interviews him and comes to the same conclusion I could see them drafting him as a #3 guy to develop into an eventual back-up. It’s hard for me to envision him being a starter in the NFL based off of what I have seen at this point however.

Janoris Jenkins

The first thing I noticed about Jenkins is how well he supports the run and the fact that he seems to be a good tackler. He couldn’t always take Ridley down one on one in the backfield but he was regularly the first to hit him and slow him down, and he made a number of nice tackles in the backfield or at the line of scrimmage in this game. He is pretty aggressive at the line of scrimmage and he has active enough hands to get off of receiver blocks at the line of scrimmage, or at least he managed to do that in this game. He isn’t a very big corner, but he is aggressive and he did what he could to re-route receivers at the line of scrimmage. He could use some work on jamming, but he did an ok job. When he did get beat off the line when he was trying to jam he showed good quickness and recovery speed to catch up to the receiver in his route. He seemed comfortable in man coverage but also looked pretty good in zone, though he was rarely challenged. I love how he supports the run as a corner though, and his quickness and burst make me think he would be very good in a zone-heavy scheme. I need to see him in man coverage more before I come to a conclusion about him being a quality man coverage corner in the NFL. He definitely has impressive ball skills though and he locates the ball well while in flight and makes good adjustments to make a play on it. Not to mention the fact that he is very dangerous as a return man on punts and after he makes an interception. I grade Jenkins as a 1st-2nd rounder right now because even if he is a great zone corner and a solid man coverage corner his play-making ability makes him worth a late first or early second round pick, but he could be the #3 corner in this class if he plays well enough in man coverage. I just haven’t seen enough of his film to figure that out yet.

Ahmad Black

I can’t say I was very impressed with Ahmad Black in this game. He packs a punch as a hitter, but he didn’t seem to take very good angles in run defense and he didn’t seem to break down well for wrap up tackles at times. I didn’t see much of him because he was regularly out of the camera shot, but even in run support I was not impressed and I did not like what I saw from him in man or zone coverage either. I would grade him as a 5th-6th round pick at this point because he probably offers some ability as a special teamer and could develop into a back-up safety at some point, but he doesn’t look like a NFL starter at all to me.

Joseph Barksdale

Barksdale was pretty underwhelming in this game. He has good size and strength, but outside of that he isn’t much of a prospect in my opinion. He doesn’t have good foot speed so against good speed rushers he will have trouble taking away the edge, he doesn’t have a good initial punch to shock the defender and he doesn’t sustain blocks well after he gets his hands on the defender. Usually with big, lumbering offensive tackles they won’t always get their hands on the quick speed rushers but if they do they take them out of the play, but that is not the case with Barksdale. Not only was he not very impressive to me in the passing game but he didn’t make a quality impact in the running game either. He struggled getting to the second level which speaks to his lack of quality foot speed and he again struggled to sustain blocks in this phase of the game. He needs technique work in my opinion because he does not always keep his feet churning to help him sustain and drive his man, he doesn’t have a good punch and he will sometimes lean and over-extend himself, making him susceptible to a pass rush move. He looked like a 5th-6th round prospect to me in this game. He has good size and strength but his technique needs improvement and his ceiling isn’t any higher than a potentially solid RT in the NFL because of his foot speed and because he has not generated much of a push in the run game either. He has career back-up written all over him in my opinion.

Terrence Toliver

Toliver really impressed me in this game. I have to admit I expected to see a receiver with questionable hands because former LSU receivers have had problems with drops, but that is not what I saw. He did drop one pass that I thought he should have caught even though it was high, but other than that he did a great job of catching the ball with hands away from his body, securing the ball and then making a smooth move to pick up yards after the catch. He made a number of key catches in this game, including two or three big ones on LSU’s final drive to take the lead late in the game. He had two touchdowns in this game including the eventual game winner on a fade route to the corner of the end zone. I love players that show up on 3rd downs, in critical situations and especially late in close games. Toliver did all of that and more by not only making catches for 3rd downs but picking up yards after the catch and winning the game for LSU on that final drive by setting them up inside the 10 yard line with a key catch and then catching the clinching touchdown. I’m not saying he is a dominant talent, but he really showed up big in this game and I came away extremely impressed. I would probably give him a 3rd round grade right now but he looks like a nice #2 receiver in the NFL. I don’t think he is a #1, but he seems to have reliable enough hands, good enough quickness to create some separation and he can stretch the field a bit too with his size and 4.5 speed. But most importantly he shows up when his team needs him and when the pressure is on, and I love seeing that attribute in players and in the short time I have been scouting those players seem to pan out, so it was great to see that in Toliver.

Jarrett Lee

I don’t have an abundance of good things to say about Jarrett Lee but I thought I’d take notes on him to make sure I didn’t miss out on another Matt Flynn, though I don’t think I would have. Lee looked alright in this game and showed some accuracy and solid decision making in the face of pressure, plus he seems to be pretty smart and made a couple nice hot reads, but unless he gets into a post-season game and demonstrates above-average arm strength, good accuracy and good pocket poise and decision making I don’t think he will be drafted. He’s not very tall, he has limited playing experience, he doesn’t look like he has much more than average arm strength and solid accuracy… I thought he made a couple nice decisions under pressure but the sample size is just too small to draw significant conclusions from his play. I need to see more of him and so do NFL talent evaluators, so I really hope he gets an invite to the East-West Shrine game or the Texas versus The Nation game so I can see him against comparable competition day in and day out.

Carl Moore

I did not think much of Carl Moore before this game but I like him a lot as a prospect after it. I don’t think he will ever be a #1 or even a #2 WR, but I think he has NFL potential as a solid #3 or #4 receiver. He may not get drafted, but I think he should get drafted. He has great size at about 6’3”, 218 pounds and while he isn’t a burner with a reported 4.58 40 yard dash time he isn’t so slow that he can’t create separation. I haven’t seen enough of him to evaluate his route running, but I do know that every time Florida needs a 3rd down conversion or a big catch they go to him. Literally half of his catches (13 of his 27 on the season) have been on 3rd downs. Obviously he isn’t incredibly productive and he isn’t a starter for the Gators, but it speaks volumes that not only is he put in the games on 3rd down, but he consistently makes plays on critical 3rd down plays for the Gators. I don’t think he will ever get an invite to the Senior Bowl, but I hope he gets one to the East-West Shrine game because I think he could surprise some people. I don’t know how good his hands are or how well he catches away from his body, but his body of work on 3rd down for the Gators really intrigues me.

Hopefully you enjoyed my musings on how all of these guys played, and I’ll continue to churn out some notes like this until I finally have seen some people enough to churn out final scouting reports. That will be after bowl season I imagine. Thanks for reading!

–Tom